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Quay question: Councillor Cameron Brewer spoke out about the council's
vision for Quay St in the East & Bays Courier, February 8. Photo: JASON OXENHAM
I am in disbelief that the council is
considering blocking a main
arterial road for pedestrians.
I drive to work via Quay St to
Princes Wharf. The traffic is
terrible. What is an 11km trip can
take 30 to 50 minutes because it
can take 20 minutes to travel from
Beach Rd to Princes Wharf.
I drive because I gave up on
public transport. Useless,
unreliable, cramped and full of
school kids taking seats and
playing music out loud on mobile
phones. Does not make for an
enjoyable trip to work.
There are also plans to narrow
Hobson St with pedestrian areas.
How will these pedestrians get
into the city if they can t drive?
The majority of them are city
dwellers and workers, not
Make pedestrian spaces but
don t block the city s ability to
function. Block the arterials and
the city will have a heart attack.
Cart before horse
The solution being put forward in
the draft waterfront plan ignores
reality. Someone has come up
with a concept without
considering the practicalities such
as the volume of traffic using
Quay St, not just between 7am
and 9am; the impact of diverting
the traffic to already congested
roads; how many will switch to
public transport and can the
public transport system cope?
My alternative suggestion is to
make it a pedestrian/cyclist/bus
area on weekends, after a proper
study of traffic flows.
Surely the proposal in its
present form is putting the cart
before the horse -- the council
should put its efforts into
improving public transport and
bringing it up to scratch.
Once this is done and adequate
carparking is provided for train
and bus users, then the problem
may just go away.
Unfortunately, when the
Britomart Station was
redeveloped one of the best -- but
clearly not chosen -- proposals I
recall was to underground the
traffic that ran along downtown
Quay St between Britomart Place
and re-emerge above ground at
the lower Hobson/Sturdee St area.
The proposal was for the road to
be turned into pedestrian, cycle
and outdoor space that connected
downtown to the waterfront. It
was a brilliant idea and had the
proposal been adopted at the time
we would now have the through-
city traffic connection combined
with the wonderful car-free public
space that is now being called for.
Now would most certainly be
the time to readopt that scheme
and quickly have it implemented
so that we may all have our cake
and eat it.
I do not agree or support the
proposal to change Quay St to
share with pedestrians as a
I agree with the points made by
Tony Simpson and councillor
Cameron Brewer, adding that
apart from local commuter and
commercial east-west traffic, the
area near the ferry building and
Queens Wharf needs to be
serviced by taxis and buses,
especially on cruise ship days.
There is plenty of footpath from
the ferry building to Tinley St
heading east and again west to
Within the last 18 months the
footpath along the port red-fence
was widened, paved and lined
with trees. To accommodate this
new walkway, the road narrowed
to just two lanes each way, plus a
bus lane, with yellow lines
preventing any parking, except for
a tourist bus stop. Conduct a
survey, because this footpath is
grossly under-utilised now.
With most roads and highways
traffic is greater during the peaks,
Quay St is a vital link, feeding
several streets into and out of the
CBD. Also a number of office and
residential carparks are reached
from the city side of Quay St.
Reconnecting the city with the
waterfront is a nice vision and it
occurs in many spots including
Queens Wharf. But it has so few
visitors since the Rugby World
Cup, why suggest more areas for
pedestrians in downtown when
greater Auckland is surrounded
by so many waterfront walkways?
To the mayor and council --
spend on providing tangible
essential services, before fancy
schemes and dreams. Terry Riches
Councillor Cameron Brewer says
if Quay St is closed down, it will
put a lot of pressure on Custom St
East and Beach Rd. He also says:
Motorists are not going to trade
in their cars for public transport.
If governments worldwide don t
adopt policies such as making
Quay St a boulevard, with
improved public transport, in 100
to 200 years time Quay St,
Customs St East, Beach Rd and
the rest of the waterfront will
quite likely all be below sea level
at high tide.
The Quay St idea is ludicrous.
Where would all the traffic go?
The only other east-west street is
Customs St and this is already
full of traffic; it would be chaotic.
The only pedestrian traffic is
across from the ferry building to
Queen St and from the ferry
building to Viaduct Harbour.
I am a frequent user of Quay St
in buses, cars and as a pedestrian.
I wonder if the mayor and Mr
Campbell-Reid use the street in
their daily business or just look at
D F Edwards
Re dog bylaws (East & Bays
Courier, February 10).
Until two weeks ago I was a
regular walker through
Waiatarua Reserve early in the
morning -- but no longer.
On a regular basis dogs would
approach me, even though I would
go out of my way to avoid them. I
would shout out to their owners to
keep them under control. Most
times they ignore me.
Two Saturdays in a row my
husband and I walked through
and two dogs headed straight
When my husband sidestepped
out of the way the owner asked if
he had a problem. He said he
doesn t like dogs, to which the
owner replied he was an idiot and
he shouldn t walk through the
park if he didn t like dogs.
I told the owner that his dogs
were not under control -- he made
no attempt to call them back until
one was near the road.
On the second occasion, a dog
stopped in the distance and was
looking at us. I told my husband
to keep walking.
Again we went out of our way to
avoid it, but it came right at us.
We started kicking our legs for
The owner told us we were
idiots and to leave his dog alone.
Excuse me, but I have a right to
walk through my local park,
which is a wildlife reserve, and
not be constantly approached by
Many a time I see dogs rushing
at the ducks, pukeko and other
wildlife through the marshes.
I have submitted my objection
to having any dog in this park
unleashed, or any beach either.
Re: Dog laws.
I agree with Sean Shepperton
that it is unfair of the council to
consider prohibiting dogs from
running freely across sports fields.
As many local parks are also
sports fields this is a significant
By pandering to the demands of
football and cricket clubs, the
council is sending a message to
the community that local parks
are solely for the use of those
people who want to play organised
sport. And further restriction on
dog walkers most definitely
makes dog ownership less viable.
Our local park is Madill s Farm.
It was originally a working farm
and was gifted to the local people.
A lot of dogs are exercised there
and a lot of people use the park for
a variety of activities including
picnics, tossing a frisbee,
The sports clubs focus on dogs
because of a few thoughtless dog
owners that don t pick up their
dog s droppings.
However, no consideration is
given to park-goers who
frequently discover a range of
litter left in the parks after
organised sporting activities.
There are very few diseases
dogs can pass on to humans
through droppings. Sportspeople
are more likely to catch something
from fellow sportspeople.
We should all be able to use our
parks freely, with consideration
for each other. Antonia Hannah
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